| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Silver
Easy
Joined: 12 Apr 2005
Posts: 35
|
 Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:25 pm Post subject: Bigby [Interposing, Forceful, Grasping, Clenched, Crushing] |
 |
|
hmm... sorry for being a noob but i can still find it anywhere...
how does bidgy work? is it a fort save? dex save? will save? disciple save?
i've asked alot of people that how does it work.. all i get is silence  .. so if someone would be so kind and tell me =)
Thanks.
_________________
I can see them coming...
My pulse is quicken..
My cold blade smiles...
Get away from her! Bastards ! punks! DIEEEE!!!
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
knowj
Resigned
Joined: 13 Oct 2004
Posts: 566
Location: UK
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:22 pm Post subject: |
|
|
*Bigby*
there are 4 different bigby spells
easiest way to get them is to level as a sorcer maxing out on charisma and constitution. level 9 bigby (Crushing hand is the most useful)
i dont know what the saves are most of them have reflex saves on them.
_________________
http://www.knowj.com
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ish*
Epic
Joined: 03 Nov 2004
Posts: 1211
Location: P-town
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:38 am Post subject: |
|
|
I thought they were all touch spells, which is an AC save.
Bigby's Interposing Hand (lowers ab by 10) is probably a low ac save.
Bigby's forceful hand is a strength or discipline check, I'm not sure.
Bigby's Clenched Fist is another ac save + will save vs. stun.
Bigbies crushing hand is probably a high ac save with paralyzing effect only that is only countered with freedom or 10 RDD/10 PM levels.
I'm pretty sure thats the basics.
_________________
"Runners never quit, and Quiters always run, but where theres a Will, theres a Way, and I'm here to find it."
Chief of ||Kobold Clan||
~Overseer of the Bloodguard~
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Dambedir
Winged God
Joined: 13 Oct 2004
Posts: 2856
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:03 am Post subject: |
|
|
Touch spells require the target to be within melee range.
Bigby is not a touch spell.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
PermanentMarkers
Winged God
Joined: 27 Feb 2005
Posts: 629
Location: Running Around In Circles.. waiting for something to happen
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:55 am Post subject: |
|
|
They all have different saves.. some are Bull Rush attempt (Str Check) Some are grapple attempts (thats crushing hand.. and it is Str+Bab) and one of the others is a Fortitude save vs. stun.. sorry but I don't know the names of them..
_________________
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Vladiat0r
1337
Joined: 26 Jan 2005
Posts: 1732
Location: Somewhere in deep... love
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:54 pm Post subject: |
|
|
From what I can tell the following are the checks for the bigbies.
The standard save DC = 10 + caster level + ability modifier
Interposing:
if (DC > Will save)
-10AC to target (not -10AB)
Forceful:
if (DC > Reflex save) AND (d20 + 17 > d20 + STR mod + size mod) *grapple check*
daze, knockdown and remove flag
Bioware default uses 14, not 17
Grasping:
if (d20 + DC > AC) *AC check*
remove flag
then if (14 + d20 + DC > STR mod + size mod) *grapple check*
paralyze
Bioware default uses +9 to DC, not 0. Default also adds BAB in grapple check
Clenched:
if (10 + DC > AC) *AC check*
Apply dmg
if (DC > Fort)
Daze for 1 round
Crushing:
if (11 + d20 + DC > AC) *AC check*
AND (14 + d20 + DC > d20 + BAB + STR mod + Size mod) *grapple check*
Paralyze, Immobilize
Bioware default uses 16, not 14
Last edited by Vladiat0r on Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:30 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Dambedir
Winged God
Joined: 13 Oct 2004
Posts: 2856
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:20 am Post subject: |
|
|
Interposing is AB affecting, from the last time I used it...
 *is confused*
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Vladiat0r
1337
Joined: 26 Jan 2005
Posts: 1732
Location: Somewhere in deep... love
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:33 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Dambedir wrote: | Interposing is AB affecting, from the last time I used it...
*is confused* |
Yeah I don't know why it was changed to affect AC instead.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Baron
Banned
Joined: 24 Apr 2005
Posts: 95
|
| Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 4:33 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I think helfast did it because he didnt like the spell that was pwning his cleric monk.
_________________
Suddenly, he let out a scream, and a unearthly white light burst from Lo Pan's throat and eyes. All of the Chang Sings were blinded instantly. In the confusion following, Lo Pan's henchmen swiftly incapacitated all three blinded warriors with their concealed weapons. Only Hawk was spared.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Vladiat0r
1337
Joined: 26 Jan 2005
Posts: 1732
Location: Somewhere in deep... love
|
| Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 4:35 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Vladiat0r wrote: | | Dambedir wrote: | Interposing is AB affecting, from the last time I used it...
*is confused* |
Yeah I don't know why it was changed to affect AC instead. |
Actually I believe this was done by Bioware in a recent patch.
_________________
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
angelus
Winged God
Joined: 23 Jun 2004
Posts: 774
Location: Waiting around the corner
|
| Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 11:49 pm Post subject: |
|
|
is it possible you could change it back to ab plz
_________________
On Antiworld I play as Dante
Everyone has a bad day every once and a while, mine just last a little longer.
****Overseer of the Bloodguard****
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
