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Postby Sephtis » Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:10 pm

Recently "moved" onto the new pc, mostly works fine save for one problem.

Whenever I try to run cod4, CS:S, TF2 or L4D2, (not tried any others) itll be fine. up until I load a game, eg on team fortress I join a server, as soon as its done loading, itll freeze, and loop sounds it hears, or play sound as normal. obviously witha frozen screent hat refuses to budge with ctrl alt del, I cant play. I've updated drivers, flashed my bios, still nothing, admin mode does nothing, compatability mode as it always has been is a joke.

Anyone heard of this problem?

Got a vid on you tube, while terrible quality, shows the problem in cod4, which will actual play...but freeze every so often, or every second...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSg1GPtrYqE
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Postby shameless_w_o_a_d » Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:33 am

Hmm... have you got another system you can try the graphics card in? If that system gets similar issues, it's the card and I'd suggest RMAing it.

Not too sure on what other problems there could be that's causing that issue.
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Postby Vladiat0r » Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:44 am

Try removing and re-installing the graphics card?
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Postby Sephtis » Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:45 pm

Sry shamey, I doubt its the card, I've been using it in my old computer for years :/.

Ill try taking the card out then back in, my slight problem here is My monitor needs the card in to work.

update : Took the card out after uninstalling the drivers, opening it up etc for a clean, put it back in, on the other crossfire slot. Reinstalled itself with the windows driver (-.-), no change at all.

Im having trouble getting a clean install of my drivers, if I uninstall the windows ones, the graphics card can't be found unless I scan for changes, and when found windows will install its own driver, I can't stop this process because windows 7 home premium 32 bit is missing the GPedit.msc, since microsoft likes to rip us off, and make anyone who actully knows how to use a computer struggle.

My only means to install the latest legacy drivers for my card is to install over the windows ones... which is little better than not doing it. either was, the problem persists.
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Postby shameless_w_o_a_d » Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:14 am

Can you remember the driver version number you last used on the old system before you moved it in to your new one? It's a long shot, but there may be the possibility that the latest drivers are causing these issues with your card.

If that fixes it, or you still have issues, I'd suggest explaining the scenario (along with sending the Youtube link) to the respective party - Nvidia or ATI - and see if there is a known issue for it. Worst case scenario, you have to wait for the latest driver refresh to have your problems resolved.
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Postby Sephtis » Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:56 am

I'm already trying to fix the issue with steam, all the various tests and stuff I've done Just make me think windows 7 doesn;t like my old card.

The thing that urks me is that its the same error in many games. But games I'd ahve thought would have the error, do not. The freeze always happens after the game starts to render the main in game graphics, the freeze happens on anything with the halflife 2 engine, but doom 3 runs fine, made around the same time.

I'm sure time (a new graphics card ) will solve the issue...
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Postby shameless_w_o_a_d » Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:56 am

Hmm... that actually might just be the key to your problems.

Try downloading and installing DirectX 9 on to your 7 installation. Doom 3 is an OpenGL graphics game, and the OpenGL drivers have remained relatively the same for the last decade since... well... OpenGL hasn't really moved much further in terms of API design methodologies since Adam was a cowboy. I don't think OpenGL 3.0 has really kicked off yet with most of the developers, although I'd say id's newest games out the door will sport the new API changes.

Gathering from what you've stated in terms of games that have the issue, I do believe they are only programmed with DirectX for their graphics APIs, and mostly adhere to DirectX 9 which, by default, has a slightly quirky distro (i.e. not the norm) in both Vista and 7. Well, at least with the 7 RC that was the case... I'm not entirely sure if they fixed it before the shipped version. I'm still running the RC which will expire at the end of the month and my computer will shut down every 3 hours I believe the timer was (which reminds me, must buy Windows 7 Professional OEM).

Try giving the following link a go and see if that makes any difference: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... laylang=en

Can't guarantee that it will magically fix everything, but it's the only other plausible common denominator we haven't looked at that I can think of at the moment.
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Postby Sephtis » Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:27 pm

I've tried before T.T I think my motherboards directx 11 is messing around with it.

The more I think on this the more I need a directx 11 card...jeeez.
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Postby shameless_w_o_a_d » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:13 am

Sephtis wrote:I've tried before T.T I think my motherboards directx 11 is messing around with it.

The more I think on this the more I need a directx 11 card...jeeez.


If you ask me, it's a waste of money for a marketing gimmick. Seriously, it will be a few years yet before developers start coding in DX11 features in to games and software mainstream. It will only be the bigger publishers that have the budgets to include DX11 code in to games slated for release next year at the earliest that will get in first.

Also, DirectX 11 would hardly mess with it. Games that are coded for DirectX 9 will use the DirectX 9 distro you install on to your machine over 10 or 11. I guess it's just not your DirectX installation that's at fault.
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Postby Sephtis » Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:26 pm

Found the problem, or the problem found me.

My x800 burnt itself dead last night after I started to smell plastic burning and the screen threw up some nasty purple artifacts (I cut the power at this point).

I then remembered I have a spare x1300 (a rather crap card, but better than roasted silicon), no idea why I never remembered sooner.

Anyways, stuck it in, and the problems vanished, I'm guessing the x800 was faulty and I never realised, its just till I used 7, I'd never had trouble. I'm guessing it burnt out the component needed for games like hlf2.

Well sorry for all the trouble ^^, I have a temporary solution till I get enough funds to buy the card I want (5770, oh yeah)
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